The 7 Day Challenge: DAY 3 (THURSDAY)

Welcome to the 7 Day Challenge. For 7 days, we are testing our Emergency Preparedness and Food Storage Plans. Each day will bring a NEW mock emergency, or situation that will test at least one of the reasons “WHY” we strive to be prepared! REMEMBER: No going to a store, or spending any money for the entire 7 days!

Your country has just suffered a severe terrorist attack. A series of nuclear bombs were fired off simultaneously, causing an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP). This has rendered all electricity and electrical devices in your entire country to be useless. This includes lights, cell phones, computers, vehicles with electrical ignitions, generators, and most municipal water pumps. Today is going to be rough … READ THE TASKS AND LIMITATIONS CAREFULLY but adapt where work and family situations require if needed..


Today’s Tasks:

  • Cook and clean up all of your meals without power or water (powerless cooking ideas)
  • Walk or ride a bike anywhere you need to go today
  • Entertain yourself (and your kids if applicable) without electricity the entire day
  • Keep your family warm (or cool) as furnace blowers and A/C will not work without electricity
  • At some point today (make it a surprise for your family) you see a pack of looters making their way through your neighborhood. You have fifteen minutes to collect your grab list items (things you wouldn’t want damaged or stolen) and one meal worth of food to eat (72 hour kits would be great for this). Evacuate on foot to a nearby park and stay away from your home for at least 2 hours until the looters have moved on. (Even if you think you can defend yourself, this is a practice exercise to use your kits and evacuation plan)
  • Jot down some ideas on how you would live and function in a sustained post-EMP environment

Today’s Limitations:

  • For this day, and ALL days of the challenge: no spending money, no going to stores, and no restaurants.
  • Your fridge food has gone bad already, but the freezer food is still ok.
  • No electronics. This means iPods, cell phones, laptops, ANYTHING. They are all fried, even generators are destroyed. You may only get online to discuss the challenge 😉
  • You can only drive if your car has a non-electric ignition (i.e. 1960’s or older) … unless you are going to work and it’s too far to walk
  • You aren’t able to communicate with your family, did you have a family plan in place?
  • Remember … toilets require water to “flush”.

Advanced Tasks:

  • Grind wheat by hand and use it in a recipe today.
  • SUPER ADVANCED (for those who think this is too easy): Your neighborhood is in ruins, stay away from home the entire day without your car, with all of your grab list items, and eating only out of your disaster kit. (If you do this one you get 5 bonus points)

REMEMBER, TOMORROW’S CHALLENGE WILL BE DIFFERENT.
How long would you have lasted under these conditions?

 


Make sure your fill out today’s Report Card to see how well you did, to keep track of areas you can improve, to remember things you need to do, and things you need to buy. Use the data to make a game plan to take you to the next level of preparedness, whatever that may be.


  • Mdslngr1

    Hi. I’m sure you just overlooked this little detail, but toilets just need about a gallon of water dumped into the bowl to flush, BUT, they usually require electricity to refill the tank. So, in your water storage plan, you can include as much “not exactly drinkable” water, that can be poured into a 3 gal bucket, be used for   things like filling the tank with half (for next time)and using the rest to “flush”the toilet! I just found this website(mentioned on another websites’ comments) so it’s gonna be fun just trying to glean all the useful info I can from two ladies that don’t look like they would be even interested in these subjects. Are either of you single?

  • Heyyou63plus2

    Boy my family has been preparing for this one for a very log time.  We are not un-prepared for this.   #1.   We live in the country and have built an all metal barn to also act as a feraday cage for a good many things that we will need if this kind of attack happens.  We have two vehicles that are in excellent running condition that do not require and electric start .  A 1970 pick-up truck and a 1980 small pick-up truck.  Yes you heard me right it is a 1980’s truck.   First we have asumed that the attack would most likely happen during the week when my grandson is in school and my son is working, only my husband and I are home.  The first thing is to get my grandson home from school and that is not going to happen by his school bus because they won’t be running; so we made plans for him to go to a place near by his school and wait for his grandfather to come and pick him up.  We live 21 miles from town and his school, so this is the plan.  Grandpa will take the old truck and go pick him up and make an assesment of the situation in town, offer any assistance to anyone needing a ride back our way, especially neighbor kids !   I am handicaped so bugging out is not an option.  If anyone comes to loot out here they need to have 9 lives because these neighbors will shoot to kill !   Next job is to bring out our communication radios that have been stored in a safe faraday cage.  Some of these small but necessary things have not only been stored in our metal barn that is grounded but they have also been stored in metal garbage cans .  They are placed in news paper and placed on a block of wood inside the can so as not to touch any sides.  We believe this is over kill but as far as I’m concerned better to be safe than sorry !  Our major concern is to keep life as close to a normal setting as possible.  Absolutely no panic !   We will also go pick-up my granddaughter and her husband and baby.  I’m not concerned about the stove or the well pump right away , everything in due time.  We will eat  MRE’s for dinner.  It is important to get information on just exactly where the attack happened, and there will be no television or radio broadcasts as these things won’t function how ever the CB will if stored in the garage or faraday cage !   Now to get my son home from his job.   Not an easy task because he works at one of the rest areas on a major highway and everything on the highway is going to be at a stand still.   The cars won’t be running and people will be all over the highway walking around trying to find help to get off the highway.   Anyone able to move around the highway is going to be stopped and begged for help, so that means you should not venture out there at all.  The only thing we can do is have the son either walk to a safe place off the highway to a close small town that can be reached by back roads so we can pick him up or see if he can get his truck going and try to drive off the highway !     One way or another we will get him home and then we will start working on getting the power started to the house, which is doable but will take some time.   This is the true test and you better be ready for this one.  It can come any day and I believe it is not a matter of if it will happen it is a matter of when and with all the cyber attacks of late I think everyone should be getting ready now.  These little tests on here have been easy on you but when it really happens there will be no more time to say oh now I see where I need to improve.  The time for improving is right now and tomorrow will be too late !    These gals have done an excellant job of bringing everything to light without causing you to panic but I’m going to tell you right now that you need to close up the gaps and loop holes and get it all together now !   You need a real good plan.  keep your back pack in the car with plenty of water a good pair of walking shoes so you can walk home from work if you have to.   If you live in the cold country then you also need to make sure you have a good warm hat and gloves and water proof shoes or boots in case you have to walk any distance.  Remember your cell phones won’t be working so you can’t call for a ride.   Plan now for how you will get your kids home from school or day care.    You may be interrested in knowing that some old riding lawnmowers will be operational and you could hook a little trailer to it and use it to pick up the children.  Do not think of going anywhere else when you pick up other family members, such as going to the store for last minute supplies.  By the time you get there there won’t be much left and there may just be bands of roaming people out by then looking for trouble anywhere they can find it !    Get your kids and go straight back home.  Too late for extra supplies.  You should have your food supply all together by now and you need to get home and get ready for the dark, by getting out some candles or oil lamps or what ever you are planning to use and figure out what you are going to eat for supper.   I hope you have a gun and some ammunition handy for everything from protection to possible hunting after a while for food or even for barter for something you may need.    Do not Panic but do be prepared.   This will pass in time but in the meantime we all have to get through the tuff times together !    I am definately ready and so should you be !  Do not wait any longer please !

    • Heyyou63plus2

      Another thing, I would never leave my food supply and water un protected and leave while there are a gang of mauraders in the neighborhood !   Are you kidding me?   This is all done for my familys and my protection and you think I’m going to leave it unprotected?  Think again!   If you want to leave your food and yourself unprotected you go right ahead but that won’t be me !   If I was going to leave everything at the first sign on trouble I would be better off not spending the time or the money in the first place.   This is all meant to keep me and my family alive and you talk about dropping everything and bugging out to a park where you will be unprotected and leave all your food for someone to steal and if they come upon you coming back from the park then they can just kill you !    No way.   There will be someone here at all times along with my big black dog !    No you don’t just go off to a park at a time like this.  If you bugg out it is with your whole family and it should be to a more secure place and a permanent place, not to a park !   Learn to shoot a gun and lock yourself in your home till help comes or shoot to kill before they shoot to kill you !

  • Grahamgang

    Day 2 was a breeze. Day 3 the Hurricane hit. Wow this one is going to be pondered over for awhile to make sure not just the physical well being will be taken care of but the emotional effect will be handled as well. Good job.

  • “if all the cars were dead then the road would be safer” — how true, how true! 🙂

    I would think somewhere in the forest, safely away from your home would count. Then again, I’m only watching the challenges (and I recommended the site to a friend who does security and preparedness training). Lots of good lessons here!

    For a poster above…I read _Alas, Babylon_ (by Pat Frank), and think it was an excellent book.

    I’m looking forward to reading _One Second After_ (William R. Forstchen). There’s also _Farnham’s Freehold_ (Robert A. Heinlein), another novel that deals with preparedness after nukes.

  • Laura

    What a GREAT idea about the soapy water! I missed washing my hands so much. I was about to go nuts. Then my toddler needed about three baths all on the same day. LOL

  • Cereusy

    I couldn’t keep my son home today, so I went through the things that I would have to adapt if he were to be home full time. No problems with anything except the “grab and go”. That problem was two fold. First was that the BOB is in the process of being overhauled, so it would not have been ready. Second was that very little of my food storage is hidden, so we probably would have lost it all to looters. There is a “hidden” area in the works but it’s still in planning stages.

  • Cereusy

    I couldn’t keep my son home today, so I went through the things that I would have to adapt if he were to be home full time. No problems with anything except the “grab and go”. That problem was two fold. First was that the BOB is in the process of being overhauled, so it would not have been ready. Second was that very little of my food storage is hidden, so we probably would have lost it all to looters. There is a “hidden” area in the works but it’s still in planning stages.

  • Patti R

    Day 3 Didn’t get to do all this one, because of prior commentments. Did spend as much time as possible without electricity. I would have made chicken stew for my famiy in our solar oven. We do need to get a new battery radio. We have a generator. But I don’t know how to use it. Need hubby to show me this.
    Day 2, I have been working on my bread recipe. So I made rolls. They were wonderful. Didn’t cook, because hubby’s birthday went to friends for dinner. I had a dozen large right out of the oven to take over. yum.
    Day1, no water. I have done things that make life easier on this. I save large bottles of the different liquid soaps. When empty you fill them with water. This leaves you with soapy water. NOT to drink. But to wash hands, dishes, and hand wash a few clothes if necessary. (did post this on fb) Just make sure you can lift the containers. Water is heavy. We had been careful about our water because we had to use bottled water for drinking and cooking at the last rental. So I have a very good amount.

    • Laura

      What a GREAT idea about the soapy water! I missed washing my hands so much. I was about to go nuts. Then my toddler needed about three baths all on the same day. LOL

  • Patti R

    Day 3 Didn’t get to do all this one, because of prior commentments. Did spend as much time as possible without electricity. I would have made chicken stew for my famiy in our solar oven. We do need to get a new battery radio. We have a generator. But I don’t know how to use it. Need hubby to show me this.
    Day 2, I have been working on my bread recipe. So I made rolls. They were wonderful. Didn’t cook, because hubby’s birthday went to friends for dinner. I had a dozen large right out of the oven to take over. yum.
    Day1, no water. I have done things that make life easier on this. I save large bottles of the different liquid soaps. When empty you fill them with water. This leaves you with soapy water. NOT to drink. But to wash hands, dishes, and hand wash a few clothes if necessary. (did post this on fb) Just make sure you can lift the containers. Water is heavy. We had been careful about our water because we had to use bottled water for drinking and cooking at the last rental. So I have a very good amount.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! This was an eyeopener! We live on a farm so we are very self sufficient…or are we!?! Water, Water, Water! With livestock a person needs a lot of water especially for dairy animals. Makes me rethink how much feed and water I store for them as well as my family. Need a hand pump for the well. No lights no problem. Really didn’t miss that. I was able to cook healthy food on the grill and small camp stove. Being on a farm poses the problem of traveling. My son was at preschool when i read the email so I had to pick him up on my bike. This took about 20 minutes to ride there. Daughter was in home school enrichment class 10 miles away. I could see right away I had a problem. How could I get her and tote my 4 yo? I figure it is a least a 60 minute ride to get her. I drove to get her b/c I didn’t have time to figure it out and get there in time. Gotta come up with a plan for this. This is harvest season on the farm and I can, freeze, or dehydrate about every day. Need a better plan for doing this without power. Couldn’t leave due to looters. There is nowhere to go! I agree with the other lady take your stand and defend your place! But I did go through my evac plan and decide if I had to leave I would put everything in a cart or on the back of one of my goats and start walking. Overall great exercise. Thanks for helping me see the holes in my plan.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! This was an eyeopener! We live on a farm so we are very self sufficient…or are we!?! Water, Water, Water! With livestock a person needs a lot of water especially for dairy animals. Makes me rethink how much feed and water I store for them as well as my family. Need a hand pump for the well. No lights no problem. Really didn’t miss that. I was able to cook healthy food on the grill and small camp stove. Being on a farm poses the problem of traveling. My son was at preschool when i read the email so I had to pick him up on my bike. This took about 20 minutes to ride there. Daughter was in home school enrichment class 10 miles away. I could see right away I had a problem. How could I get her and tote my 4 yo? I figure it is a least a 60 minute ride to get her. I drove to get her b/c I didn’t have time to figure it out and get there in time. Gotta come up with a plan for this. This is harvest season on the farm and I can, freeze, or dehydrate about every day. Need a better plan for doing this without power. Couldn’t leave due to looters. There is nowhere to go! I agree with the other lady take your stand and defend your place! But I did go through my evac plan and decide if I had to leave I would put everything in a cart or on the back of one of my goats and start walking. Overall great exercise. Thanks for helping me see the holes in my plan.

  • Beachy1mom

    Hubby & I discussed & agreed on this one. We have pop up tent/trailer that runs on propane, have mopeds that do not have electric starters, have money on hand, canned or dehydrated food in abundance, batteries, flash lights, radios & scriptures. We have had to live without electricity for days in the winter when storm cut out power. As for looters, we are lifetime members of the NRA, have guns & knowledge of how to use them. Neighbors agree & I believe if this happened, the looters would not survive our street. Not being nasty just fully prepared. Praying we would never have to put this to a real test. We are very willing to share anytime asked, but not too willing to allow ourselves to become victims because of ignorance. I think being prepared means being willing to stand up for what is right & “allowing” looting to go on unchecked is like agreeing that it is ok.

  • Beachy1mom

    Hubby & I discussed & agreed on this one. We have pop up tent/trailer that runs on propane, have mopeds that do not have electric starters, have money on hand, canned or dehydrated food in abundance, batteries, flash lights, radios & scriptures. We have had to live without electricity for days in the winter when storm cut out power. As for looters, we are lifetime members of the NRA, have guns & knowledge of how to use them. Neighbors agree & I believe if this happened, the looters would not survive our street. Not being nasty just fully prepared. Praying we would never have to put this to a real test. We are very willing to share anytime asked, but not too willing to allow ourselves to become victims because of ignorance. I think being prepared means being willing to stand up for what is right & “allowing” looting to go on unchecked is like agreeing that it is ok.

  • Lianne

    Well best laid plans and all that…I couldnt keep to the plan as we had a massive weather bomb hit us…I was able to take the toddlers to the park but for only around 2 hours as the wind became quite dangerous! They enjoyed playing in the rain in their gumboots and raincoats but the wind started being too strong for them….this got me to thinking about what I would have done if I didnt have a home to go back to….we might have had to shelter in the public restrooms! The location I had picked out as safe to go to if my home is destroyed is totally useless in high winds (trees are coming down). Havent missed electricity though…only using for this.

  • Esther

    I read “One Second After” too. Really gets you thinking about how pampered we are and how we take so much for granted.
    “Alas, Babylon” is also a good book. I little more mild but realistic.
    Being physically, emotionally and psychologically prepared is SO important. Good job! It’s the little things that matter.

  • Esther

    I read “One Second After” too. Really gets you thinking about how pampered we are and how we take so much for granted.
    “Alas, Babylon” is also a good book. I little more mild but realistic.
    Being physically, emotionally and psychologically prepared is SO important. Good job! It’s the little things that matter.

  • Luv4genealogy

    One other thing I need to get is a hand grinder. I did have flour though because I used a borrowed electric grinder last night. : )

  • Luv4genealogy

    This was a challenge to ponder rather than participate. I would be ready with food, water, light. I do not have my important stuff together to grab and go. The park is not far – less than a mile. Will be reading more about EMPs to be better prepared – wagon/bikes for transportation for one thing.

    • Luv4genealogy

      One other thing I need to get is a hand grinder. I did have flour though because I used a borrowed electric grinder last night. : )

  • Luv4genealogy

    This was a challenge to ponder rather than participate. I would be ready with food, water, light. I do not have my important stuff together to grab and go. The park is not far – less than a mile. Will be reading more about EMPs to be better prepared – wagon/bikes for transportation for one thing.

  • Boy I hope this one never happens!! I have several ways to cook….gas stove …camp stove …dutch overns. Water stored and a filter….want to store more water. I would can things in freezer. I heard that you can take the spring loaded curtain rods and make curtains out of shower curtains and put along ever shelf in the freezer so when you open it you do not lose as much cold air. Just lift the curtain on the shelf you want.Thanks for getting us to thinking!.

  • Boy I hope this one never happens!! I have several ways to cook….gas stove …camp stove …dutch overns. Water stored and a filter….want to store more water. I would can things in freezer. I heard that you can take the spring loaded curtain rods and make curtains out of shower curtains and put along ever shelf in the freezer so when you open it you do not lose as much cold air. Just lift the curtain on the shelf you want.Thanks for getting us to thinking!.

  • Lynne

    there were some things in this challenge that were realtively simple. I have a solar oven as well as a butane one burner stove and a propane two burner with an oven stove. I have the cookware to work with each of these. Cast Iron pans are the easiest to clean under these curcumstances.
    Entertaining the kids was also relatiely easy because when my grandkids come over we don’t use the computer or the TV much. We play ping pong, board games and different outdoor games most of which include a ball. We also do puzzles and paint.
    We live in Arizona so we have a pool. It is still pretty warm during the day so the pool comes in handy. We have used it more than once during a power outage.
    The closest park is about a half mile away. By the time we got there with all of our stuff we would have time for a nice picnic and then head home. All day away from home in the Arizona heat would be a bigger challenge. I need to think of someplace that we could go that would be relatively shaded and more cool. Anbother thing I discovered was that I didn’t have my documents all in one place and easy to take with us when we had to leave. It is suggested we have a list of things to take if we have to evacuate and I didn’t have this list done either.I will be working on these things this coming year.
    Even after Monday’s challenge I still had enough water to flush my toilets and provide water for drinking and cooking.
    My biggest challenge was communication. There are only three of us at our house and we were home for the day except for our daughter who is in collage and had classes. However I have five children and eight grandchildrend liivng within 10 miles of me. I have no idea how I would contact them to find out how they were doing. Even ham radios need electricity. So do gas stations. I learned this watching some of the disasters that have happened around the world. People had cars but couldn’t get any gas. Also ATM’s and payment machines don’t work so that shows a need for having some cash on hand if we had any place to use it.
    I just purchased a hand wheat grinder this summer. I was so excited to have it.
    This really helps me to see where I am at in case of an emergency.

  • Lynne

    there were some things in this challenge that were realtively simple. I have a solar oven as well as a butane one burner stove and a propane two burner with an oven stove. I have the cookware to work with each of these. Cast Iron pans are the easiest to clean under these curcumstances.
    Entertaining the kids was also relatiely easy because when my grandkids come over we don’t use the computer or the TV much. We play ping pong, board games and different outdoor games most of which include a ball. We also do puzzles and paint.
    We live in Arizona so we have a pool. It is still pretty warm during the day so the pool comes in handy. We have used it more than once during a power outage.
    The closest park is about a half mile away. By the time we got there with all of our stuff we would have time for a nice picnic and then head home. All day away from home in the Arizona heat would be a bigger challenge. I need to think of someplace that we could go that would be relatively shaded and more cool. Anbother thing I discovered was that I didn’t have my documents all in one place and easy to take with us when we had to leave. It is suggested we have a list of things to take if we have to evacuate and I didn’t have this list done either.I will be working on these things this coming year.
    Even after Monday’s challenge I still had enough water to flush my toilets and provide water for drinking and cooking.
    My biggest challenge was communication. There are only three of us at our house and we were home for the day except for our daughter who is in collage and had classes. However I have five children and eight grandchildrend liivng within 10 miles of me. I have no idea how I would contact them to find out how they were doing. Even ham radios need electricity. So do gas stations. I learned this watching some of the disasters that have happened around the world. People had cars but couldn’t get any gas. Also ATM’s and payment machines don’t work so that shows a need for having some cash on hand if we had any place to use it.
    I just purchased a hand wheat grinder this summer. I was so excited to have it.
    This really helps me to see where I am at in case of an emergency.

  • Krazyship

    This one was very real for us today. I didn’t find out what the challenge was until late in the day. Our power did go out. We laughed when we saw the challenge. The timing was great. I am glad that we have been getting prepared for the challenge. We were able to handle no power for a day with out much difficulty.

  • Krazyship

    This one was very real for us today. I didn’t find out what the challenge was until late in the day. Our power did go out. We laughed when we saw the challenge. The timing was great. I am glad that we have been getting prepared for the challenge. We were able to handle no power for a day with out much difficulty.

  • Hdihnencoupon

    An EMP pulse won’t affect a gas generator.

  • Hdihnencoupon

    An EMP pulse won’t affect a gas generator.

  • Litlqt1108

    With everything I have going on right now, I was only observing not participating in the 7- day challenge. BUT when I got home today….lo and behold my power was off. I had to make due and come up with a dinner out of the pantry cooked outside the house. Thankfully I just bought a little camping stove on the summer clearance at CVS for $6 and bought two propane tanks to go with them!

  • Litlqt1108

    With everything I have going on right now, I was only observing not participating in the 7- day challenge. BUT when I got home today….lo and behold my power was off. I had to make due and come up with a dinner out of the pantry cooked outside the house. Thankfully I just bought a little camping stove on the summer clearance at CVS for $6 and bought two propane tanks to go with them!

  • Litlqt1108

    With everything I have going on right now, I was only observing not participating in the 7- day challenge. BUT when I got home today….lo and behold my power was off. I had to make due and come up with a dinner out of the pantry cooked outside the house. Thankfully I just bought a little camping stove on the summer clearance at CVS for $6 and bought two propane tanks to go with them!

  • TK

    So far so good. It’s those looters I’m worried about! The elders are napping and a hike to the park three miles away would do in the oldest. Luckily we do have old vehicles that would be running for the retreat.

    Have propane stove and oven. How blessed! Needed though since sun ovens would be hit and miss in our location. Plenty of wood to cook over a fire too. Cooling not a problem today. A bike with pull cart comes in handy for water transport to save on fuel. Plenty of old school games to entertain. Family plan in place.

    Our needs are to purchase wheat and a grinder. Find tasty additions to the food stored in the To-Go-Bags, also a mini backpack friendly heat source for cooking.

  • BC

    The past few days have been a great chance to test what I thought was ready! Where I thought I had 5 flashlights stored- I went to retrieve this morning and there were NONE. Where I thought I had ample batteries, I found NONE. ( Time to change the location of flashlight and battery storage- somewhere hidden from my children ) I checked this week to see that I had enough propane for the campstove, but have discovered today that there is a hose problem, and the stove does not work. I am learning that preparation is more than a checklist of things to have, but frequently making sure all things are in their place and functioning.

  • BC

    The past few days have been a great chance to test what I thought was ready! Where I thought I had 5 flashlights stored- I went to retrieve this morning and there were NONE. Where I thought I had ample batteries, I found NONE. ( Time to change the location of flashlight and battery storage- somewhere hidden from my children ) I checked this week to see that I had enough propane for the campstove, but have discovered today that there is a hose problem, and the stove does not work. I am learning that preparation is more than a checklist of things to have, but frequently making sure all things are in their place and functioning.

  • BC

    The past few days have been a great chance to test what I thought was ready! Where I thought I had 5 flashlights stored- I went to retrieve this morning and there were NONE. Where I thought I had ample batteries, I found NONE. ( Time to change the location of flashlight and battery storage- somewhere hidden from my children ) I checked this week to see that I had enough propane for the campstove, but have discovered today that there is a hose problem, and the stove does not work. I am learning that preparation is more than a checklist of things to have, but frequently making sure all things are in their place and functioning.

  • Gh26

    Well, its already dark here in England and I am having a relaxing time of it! I have lots of candles all over the living room making it nice and bright and inviting. I have been reading my book and chilling out. I’m missing a couple of good programmes on TV though which is annoying and wish I had some noise of some description. I jumped online only for foodstoragemadeeasy and its so difficult not checking my emails or anything!!

    I had planned sausages for dinner tonight with mash potatoes and gravy. I changed it slightly and we had sausages and jacket potatoe with cheese on the BBQ instead. I could probably last one more day with water but then we will be getting a little desperate. I had to drive to work today as its 1.5 hours away.

  • Gh26

    Well, its already dark here in England and I am having a relaxing time of it! I have lots of candles all over the living room making it nice and bright and inviting. I have been reading my book and chilling out. I’m missing a couple of good programmes on TV though which is annoying and wish I had some noise of some description. I jumped online only for foodstoragemadeeasy and its so difficult not checking my emails or anything!!

    I had planned sausages for dinner tonight with mash potatoes and gravy. I changed it slightly and we had sausages and jacket potatoe with cheese on the BBQ instead. I could probably last one more day with water but then we will be getting a little desperate. I had to drive to work today as its 1.5 hours away.

  • Dorothy

    This is one my hubby and I have talked about a lot. For food and water we could do fine, but one of my big concerns was my freezer. It is always full of all those goodies from the garden and several butchered rabbits plus other meats that we pick up occationally. So for my own piece of mind, we got 7 dozen new quart jars which come with lids, keep 2 propane tanks full for our stove in the camp trailer. Now I can take the food out there and get as much of it canned as I can, especially the meat. The camper lites run on batteries and try to keep them charged too. Not sure how this would all work but NO I am not actually going to try it today sorry. Looters beware, my hubby hates to run and he will be armed. We have a gas powered generator that he says will not be affected by the EMP so as long as the gas supply holds out we could use that too. Since we cant drive the cars there is all that gas for the generator too.(you do always keep your tanks 1/2 full don’t you) That would probably be shared with one of our friends who has a well so he could run the well pump.

  • Dorothy

    This is one my hubby and I have talked about a lot. For food and water we could do fine, but one of my big concerns was my freezer. It is always full of all those goodies from the garden and several butchered rabbits plus other meats that we pick up occationally. So for my own piece of mind, we got 7 dozen new quart jars which come with lids, keep 2 propane tanks full for our stove in the camp trailer. Now I can take the food out there and get as much of it canned as I can, especially the meat. The camper lites run on batteries and try to keep them charged too. Not sure how this would all work but NO I am not actually going to try it today sorry. Looters beware, my hubby hates to run and he will be armed. We have a gas powered generator that he says will not be affected by the EMP so as long as the gas supply holds out we could use that too. Since we cant drive the cars there is all that gas for the generator too.(you do always keep your tanks 1/2 full don’t you) That would probably be shared with one of our friends who has a well so he could run the well pump.

  • Kaytee

    Already had planned a solar oven meal for today…. It’s sitting on the backyard retaining wall right now. Just won’t be able to make rice to go with it (we use a rice cooker, although I do know how to do a pot on the propane grill). Have plenty of crackers, and preservative-free Swedish flat bread if anybody wants them.
    Going to have to use the car today– dr appointment.
    Taking advantage of the “contaminated water” to rotate out some stored water– refilling bottles with tap water after pouring the stored water into the Berkey for drinking but setting aside as “empty”; took a room-temp sink (in a dishpan) bath with unfiltered stored water, then used it for flushing. toilet.
    Did not make bread yesterday– I’m in the process of trying to go “gluten free”, and we don’t eat much bread anyway. Foods that weren’t eaten cold/raw were from scratch (a good many fresh from the garden)– only cooked eggs.

  • Kaytee

    Already had planned a solar oven meal for today…. It’s sitting on the backyard retaining wall right now. Just won’t be able to make rice to go with it (we use a rice cooker, although I do know how to do a pot on the propane grill). Have plenty of crackers, and preservative-free Swedish flat bread if anybody wants them.
    Going to have to use the car today– dr appointment.
    Taking advantage of the “contaminated water” to rotate out some stored water– refilling bottles with tap water after pouring the stored water into the Berkey for drinking but setting aside as “empty”; took a room-temp sink (in a dishpan) bath with unfiltered stored water, then used it for flushing. toilet.
    Did not make bread yesterday– I’m in the process of trying to go “gluten free”, and we don’t eat much bread anyway. Foods that weren’t eaten cold/raw were from scratch (a good many fresh from the garden)– only cooked eggs.

  • Laura M.

    Ok well today I am not prepared. I have nothing to cook with that is non electric but a grill. I guess I could do chicken. The food in fridge going bad is not good because that is where most of my fruits and veggies are stored. I could keep myself enterained by finishing my goal of reading book of mormon by conference. No kids so I don’t have to worry about that part.

    I don’t have enough water for everything needed either. I also need to look at moving or being in better shape seeming how everything is at least 3 mile walk to. I need to get some good rain gear as I look outside and it is really rainy and yucky out. I don’t have any heating source either. I have blankets and seeming how just hubby and I we could cuddle up in them. Although I haven’t had to turn heat on at all yet.

    I am really lacking in this one. I have a friend that lives close I can borrow her hand wheat grinder to grind some wheat but I don’t have one yet.

  • Laura M.

    Ok well today I am not prepared. I have nothing to cook with that is non electric but a grill. I guess I could do chicken. The food in fridge going bad is not good because that is where most of my fruits and veggies are stored. I could keep myself enterained by finishing my goal of reading book of mormon by conference. No kids so I don’t have to worry about that part.

    I don’t have enough water for everything needed either. I also need to look at moving or being in better shape seeming how everything is at least 3 mile walk to. I need to get some good rain gear as I look outside and it is really rainy and yucky out. I don’t have any heating source either. I have blankets and seeming how just hubby and I we could cuddle up in them. Although I haven’t had to turn heat on at all yet.

    I am really lacking in this one. I have a friend that lives close I can borrow her hand wheat grinder to grind some wheat but I don’t have one yet.

  • Roy

    A couple of items…Read “One Second After” for a realistic view of what life would be like after an EMP. NOT something I would ever wish for! Second, the nature of an EMP is that a nuclear device would detonate in the atmosphere, thus there would be no “fallout” from the blast. Anything with a circuit board would be fried, most anything hooked up to an outlet or power source would be fried (imagine a super potent electrical surge). Batteries would be ok…but they only last so long. Medical care would become non-existent, and there would be no way to obtain the medicines many of us use on a daily basis. Imagine what happens when there are no anti-depressants available or insulin…etc. This is a truly frightening scenario!! It was after reading this book and pondering about the “what ifs” that I decided I needed to lose weight, get in shape, learn how to hunt and provide for my family “just in case”. Last year, I bagged my first deer and with the help of my hunting partner, had to drag it through the woods about a mile to the truck…just about killed me in the process!!…I couldn’t imagine having to drag it all the way to my home which could be many miles further…so I keep exercising :-)!

  • Roy

    A couple of items…Read “One Second After” for a realistic view of what life would be like after an EMP. NOT something I would ever wish for! Second, the nature of an EMP is that a nuclear device would detonate in the atmosphere, thus there would be no “fallout” from the blast. Anything with a circuit board would be fried, most anything hooked up to an outlet or power source would be fried (imagine a super potent electrical surge). Batteries would be ok…but they only last so long. Medical care would become non-existent, and there would be no way to obtain the medicines many of us use on a daily basis. Imagine what happens when there are no anti-depressants available or insulin…etc. This is a truly frightening scenario!! It was after reading this book and pondering about the “what ifs” that I decided I needed to lose weight, get in shape, learn how to hunt and provide for my family “just in case”. Last year, I bagged my first deer and with the help of my hunting partner, had to drag it through the woods about a mile to the truck…just about killed me in the process!!…I couldn’t imagine having to drag it all the way to my home which could be many miles further…so I keep exercising :-)!

  • Love4meninuniform

    I love this challenge ….I would not have to leave my neighbor hood, I’ll be worried about the looters, this is one of the closest neighbor hood I lived in, most of them are Hunters, Fishers, heavily armed due to job or want,..and all else …I feel blessed
    but I play along
    I have gas for cooking and heating,
    pretty much some friends, parks and such areas are in walking distance, if going lil further, bikes will do
    backpacks (these are military style size) have all needed paperwork, items and each has the name on if for the persons using them, if not together at the moment, then we have a meeting place..even some of the neighbors and friends are in that plan, so we can work all together…

    thank you for doing this ….with each challenge I find more items that go on the list

  • Love4meninuniform

    I love this challenge ….I would not have to leave my neighbor hood, I’ll be worried about the looters, this is one of the closest neighbor hood I lived in, most of them are Hunters, Fishers, heavily armed due to job or want,..and all else …I feel blessed
    but I play along
    I have gas for cooking and heating,
    pretty much some friends, parks and such areas are in walking distance, if going lil further, bikes will do
    backpacks (these are military style size) have all needed paperwork, items and each has the name on if for the persons using them, if not together at the moment, then we have a meeting place..even some of the neighbors and friends are in that plan, so we can work all together…

    thank you for doing this ….with each challenge I find more items that go on the list

  • Mary Lou Rosson

    I have confess – I am not in my normal home during this challenge so I had decided I would play like I was in my home place – there I’d be fine. Here I can’t meet the first challenge. We are absolutely prepared here as well as home and would do just fine except for the commnication problem. We llive with a cell phone in our hand and have not discussed how we would handle the lack of comjmunication in an EMP situation. Thanks for the heads up. I love the challenges as they help me know what to think about and what I forgot. Today I’m doing the ones I can and making a list of the others. Am I the only one that prior to reading One Second After about 4 months ago would not have known what an EMP was? I know I’m old but surely I wasn’t the only one.

  • Mary Lou Rosson

    I have confess – I am not in my normal home during this challenge so I had decided I would play like I was in my home place – there I’d be fine. Here I can’t meet the first challenge. We are absolutely prepared here as well as home and would do just fine except for the commnication problem. We llive with a cell phone in our hand and have not discussed how we would handle the lack of comjmunication in an EMP situation. Thanks for the heads up. I love the challenges as they help me know what to think about and what I forgot. Today I’m doing the ones I can and making a list of the others. Am I the only one that prior to reading One Second After about 4 months ago would not have known what an EMP was? I know I’m old but surely I wasn’t the only one.

  • Fourinohio

    I’ll have to read up on EMPs. We have a gas generator and then a small battery backup that’s easily portable. We use the battery backup to let our kids run their portable DVD players and such off of. Not sure if these would be rendered useless in an attach or not. We would do fine with the attack as far as food, water, etc. My bigger concern would be with the nuclear fallout and such. We don’t have a basement so I’d be hurting if we were in the fallout zone.

  • Fourinohio

    I’ll have to read up on EMPs. We have a gas generator and then a small battery backup that’s easily portable. We use the battery backup to let our kids run their portable DVD players and such off of. Not sure if these would be rendered useless in an attach or not. We would do fine with the attack as far as food, water, etc. My bigger concern would be with the nuclear fallout and such. We don’t have a basement so I’d be hurting if we were in the fallout zone.

  • Chris Valarie

    funny this should be todays challenge I had the neighbors who are building a shop in the back of their property knock out my power line off the pole this morning!! I had to go to my moms to check the webiste for this so I figured it would be a good day to take a walk since its a mile away and so I made snacks from freeze dried foods i had and took some bread I made last night and made PB and honey snacks for my baby and me so I have gotten my mom to keeping a 72 hour kit for 4 people in her car so me her and the baby will be good for the day and when the kids get home from school we will walk home and use our 72 hour kits for dinner and use candles to read my for tonight and just turn in early good board game night, while they are reading I will grind up some wheat to have just incase this goes another day, As far as the looters most of my valuables are locked in a heavy duty gun cabinet that youd pretty much need a bomb to get open any other way so good luck to them and the other stuffi can grab is small picture albums and small jewelry box other than that my kids are my treasures let them have it if they need it that bad!! Our clean up will be a chinch and the MREs in the 72 hr kits have food heaters yeah a hot meal! These challenges are getting pretty fun

  • Chris Valarie

    funny this should be todays challenge I had the neighbors who are building a shop in the back of their property knock out my power line off the pole this morning!! I had to go to my moms to check the webiste for this so I figured it would be a good day to take a walk since its a mile away and so I made snacks from freeze dried foods i had and took some bread I made last night and made PB and honey snacks for my baby and me so I have gotten my mom to keeping a 72 hour kit for 4 people in her car so me her and the baby will be good for the day and when the kids get home from school we will walk home and use our 72 hour kits for dinner and use candles to read my for tonight and just turn in early good board game night, while they are reading I will grind up some wheat to have just incase this goes another day, As far as the looters most of my valuables are locked in a heavy duty gun cabinet that youd pretty much need a bomb to get open any other way so good luck to them and the other stuffi can grab is small picture albums and small jewelry box other than that my kids are my treasures let them have it if they need it that bad!! Our clean up will be a chinch and the MREs in the 72 hr kits have food heaters yeah a hot meal! These challenges are getting pretty fun

  • genf

    OK, I was thinking about the water we have stored, and the fact that we have BOBs (ours are heavy, but we have a little wagon that we have planned to transport it in). We just got a tandem bike this summer, which helps with transportation needs for our special needs child, and I have worked this summer with our dog so that she is OK on leash with us when we are all out riding. Can’t leave your pets behind on this challenge!!
    What just hit me was the things I don’t have included in our BOBs. I don’t even know where my husband keeps our EHD, which is small and easily portable and has a backup of all our family pictures, family history, important work information, etc. THAT is something I would want to grab; since he is away at a work conference, it would be up to me to do this challenge alone.
    WOW!! I had not even thought of that complication!!

    As For cooking, I have redundancy there…..meaning the grill, the single burner stove with 12 extra fuel cylinders, a solar oven, water stored, and the garden is still producing. Thankfully I have some food in the pantry and some home canning. I am also a believer in “add water and cook” items like pancake mix and a few MREs, so that you can at least get a meal out quickly, then turn to other matters that will be very pressing.

    One thing I would love to see suggestions on from anyone is kid entertainment ideas that have worked for them. Beyond coloring books, crayons, paper, basic readers, etc. Anyone have a small generator, and use it to charge vid games or the laptop? Does it work? Today is a nice day weather-wise, so the park, playing outside, etc is great. What about on stay inside days?

    Thanks for these amazing challenges! They are making me think, and see areas to work on……

  • genf

    OK, I was thinking about the water we have stored, and the fact that we have BOBs (ours are heavy, but we have a little wagon that we have planned to transport it in). We just got a tandem bike this summer, which helps with transportation needs for our special needs child, and I have worked this summer with our dog so that she is OK on leash with us when we are all out riding. Can’t leave your pets behind on this challenge!!
    What just hit me was the things I don’t have included in our BOBs. I don’t even know where my husband keeps our EHD, which is small and easily portable and has a backup of all our family pictures, family history, important work information, etc. THAT is something I would want to grab; since he is away at a work conference, it would be up to me to do this challenge alone.
    WOW!! I had not even thought of that complication!!

    As For cooking, I have redundancy there…..meaning the grill, the single burner stove with 12 extra fuel cylinders, a solar oven, water stored, and the garden is still producing. Thankfully I have some food in the pantry and some home canning. I am also a believer in “add water and cook” items like pancake mix and a few MREs, so that you can at least get a meal out quickly, then turn to other matters that will be very pressing.

    One thing I would love to see suggestions on from anyone is kid entertainment ideas that have worked for them. Beyond coloring books, crayons, paper, basic readers, etc. Anyone have a small generator, and use it to charge vid games or the laptop? Does it work? Today is a nice day weather-wise, so the park, playing outside, etc is great. What about on stay inside days?

    Thanks for these amazing challenges! They are making me think, and see areas to work on……

  • Karen

    The link below will take you to a good website to educate yourself about emps.

    http://www.onesecondafter.com/pb/wp_d10e87d9/wp_d10e87d9.html

  • Sherrylynn3

    Although I will be at work today (yes, in air conditioning and lights on!) I will do my best today before and after. And my husband has to continue to use his computer today, again due to work, But even though we won’t be dong this 100% I print these off and we discuss them at night and see what/how we would do if these things really happened. The daily report card is the best idea and really makes us think through situations that we haven’t thought completely about. Thanks so much for helping us prepare better and in a fun way!

  • Sherrylynn3

    Although I will be at work today (yes, in air conditioning and lights on!) I will do my best today before and after. And my husband has to continue to use his computer today, again due to work, But even though we won’t be dong this 100% I print these off and we discuss them at night and see what/how we would do if these things really happened. The daily report card is the best idea and really makes us think through situations that we haven’t thought completely about. Thanks so much for helping us prepare better and in a fun way!

  • Momschool62626

    hmmm – I have a basic problem here. I like this challenge a lot – BUT I work a 45 minute drive away. And MUST call in if I can’t be there. This is not an option!

    What this shows me is that my instincts have been right – either a job closer to home – or living at home on the income I already have. (which is NOT a lot, trust me – and would NOT be enough to maintain myself in an apartment AND buy food!)

    That being said – the refrigerator is not really a problem (other than wasting food) since I have a pantry. And a hand operated can opener! The freezer however – sure hope I don’t have a lot in there since frozen food will keep approximately 3 days – and if the veggies and fruits are “frosty” but not frozen – they need to be pitched! And even when they are frosty – they need to be cooked a long time (like at LEAST 30 minutes or so). Add to this that everytime you open the freezer you are letting room temperature air in – which means you are warming up the freezer! IL folks – particularly in the country most definitely can verify this! For a while there it seemed everytime I packed up my produce into the freezer I could count on a week or two power outage! Same with packing away a winter’s worth of meat there.

    So I learned a long time ago to NOT freeze fruits and veggies (they thaw too quickly for power outages!) but used canned fruits and veggies and to dry and store in dehydrated form as much as possible (yes, there are some foods that do NOT do well in a dehydrator!)

    Other than that I’m not worried about computers (stuff I want to keep I print out anyway), entertainment (I have a LOT of books! and I love to sew!). My family gave up voluntarily (voluntary for me – otherwise for my kids!) TV, and the ONLY thing I use TV for is videos and DVD anymore – which are not a problem doing without.

    Folks coming over for lunch – if the weather is nice – barbecue outside! If otherwise – maybe barbecue outside and sit on the porch or even sit inside and explain this is a challenge.

    Sadly though one thing this did cach me on – I have my 72 hour kits NOT replenished – and need desperately to do so. Also I need more water (I have some – just not flush with it – no pun intended!) and Evacuation for a couple of hours today is not an option today. With this in mind I may do this one again and consider what I WOULD do were this a real emergency. And although there are NO parks close by this is a heavily wooded area with streams, etc. and that is nearby.

  • Momschool62626

    hmmm – I have a basic problem here. I like this challenge a lot – BUT I work a 45 minute drive away. And MUST call in if I can’t be there. This is not an option!

    What this shows me is that my instincts have been right – either a job closer to home – or living at home on the income I already have. (which is NOT a lot, trust me – and would NOT be enough to maintain myself in an apartment AND buy food!)

    That being said – the refrigerator is not really a problem (other than wasting food) since I have a pantry. And a hand operated can opener! The freezer however – sure hope I don’t have a lot in there since frozen food will keep approximately 3 days – and if the veggies and fruits are “frosty” but not frozen – they need to be pitched! And even when they are frosty – they need to be cooked a long time (like at LEAST 30 minutes or so). Add to this that everytime you open the freezer you are letting room temperature air in – which means you are warming up the freezer! IL folks – particularly in the country most definitely can verify this! For a while there it seemed everytime I packed up my produce into the freezer I could count on a week or two power outage! Same with packing away a winter’s worth of meat there.

    So I learned a long time ago to NOT freeze fruits and veggies (they thaw too quickly for power outages!) but used canned fruits and veggies and to dry and store in dehydrated form as much as possible (yes, there are some foods that do NOT do well in a dehydrator!)

    Other than that I’m not worried about computers (stuff I want to keep I print out anyway), entertainment (I have a LOT of books! and I love to sew!). My family gave up voluntarily (voluntary for me – otherwise for my kids!) TV, and the ONLY thing I use TV for is videos and DVD anymore – which are not a problem doing without.

    Folks coming over for lunch – if the weather is nice – barbecue outside! If otherwise – maybe barbecue outside and sit on the porch or even sit inside and explain this is a challenge.

    Sadly though one thing this did cach me on – I have my 72 hour kits NOT replenished – and need desperately to do so. Also I need more water (I have some – just not flush with it – no pun intended!) and Evacuation for a couple of hours today is not an option today. With this in mind I may do this one again and consider what I WOULD do were this a real emergency. And although there are NO parks close by this is a heavily wooded area with streams, etc. and that is nearby.

  • Karen

    At home, this will be no problem. However, I don’t think they’ll understand about me not doing my job at work because the 7 day challenge. So, I’ll do what I can before and after work, but otherwise, I’ll have to bow out of today’s challenge. If this were the real EMP emergency, I wouldn’t be going to work, wouldn’t leave my home and would definitely defend against the looters. On the plus side, our evacuation kits are always at the ready for us to grab and go.

  • Karen

    At home, this will be no problem. However, I don’t think they’ll understand about me not doing my job at work because the 7 day challenge. So, I’ll do what I can before and after work, but otherwise, I’ll have to bow out of today’s challenge. If this were the real EMP emergency, I wouldn’t be going to work, wouldn’t leave my home and would definitely defend against the looters. On the plus side, our evacuation kits are always at the ready for us to grab and go.

  • Obrienm240

    Amazingly this is one I’m nearly totally prepared for – finished an evacuation kit last month; am working on a kit for the workplace. Plan on reading about EMPs soon. Thank you Jodi and Julie for all of your challenges and helpful information!

  • Obrienm240

    Amazingly this is one I’m nearly totally prepared for – finished an evacuation kit last month; am working on a kit for the workplace. Plan on reading about EMPs soon. Thank you Jodi and Julie for all of your challenges and helpful information!

  • Barbara

    Wow! This one is going to be tough for me, especially since I have people coming over for lunch. I guess I’ll be defrosting something and cooking it outside. I wonder if they’ll even notice that the lights aren’t turned on and I’m cooking outside? LOL! It will be interesting. Thanks Jodi and Julie, this one is already making me think.

  • Barbara

    Wow! This one is going to be tough for me, especially since I have people coming over for lunch. I guess I’ll be defrosting something and cooking it outside. I wonder if they’ll even notice that the lights aren’t turned on and I’m cooking outside? LOL! It will be interesting. Thanks Jodi and Julie, this one is already making me think.

  • lianne

    Could you have a day doing what you planned for this situation??? I would love to hear how that goes for you. Goodluck.

  • lianne

    This is a good one….my plan:
    We will be out all day…I will use the bycycle trailer to transport the toddlers I look after, my daughter will still attned school (too important to miss) and hubby can still walk to his work and do it without electronics if necessary).
    Food prep can be done from my BOB…I am equiped for all in my household as well as the children I look after and I have a homemade alcohol stove that will be good for cooking and my cuppas. Entertainment is easy enough during the day as I will have the toddlers doing nature studies…we watch the creatures and clouds etc and talk about them and glue leaves into our journals. The evening with the family will be more challenging as they are addicted to the tv but we have in the past had ‘card evenings’…it’ll be by candlelight though and a gas heater for warmth (in an extended situation I would have to install a fire….could use my Alaskan stove if nec). I’ll let you know how it went tomorrow. Wish us luck.

    • Lianne

      Well best laid plans and all that…I couldnt keep to the plan as we had a massive weather bomb hit us…I was able to take the toddlers to the park but for only around 2 hours as the wind became quite dangerous! They enjoyed playing in the rain in their gumboots and raincoats but the wind started being too strong for them….this got me to thinking about what I would have done if I didnt have a home to go back to….we might have had to shelter in the public restrooms! The location I had picked out as safe to go to if my home is destroyed is totally useless in high winds (trees are coming down). Havent missed electricity though…only using for this.

  • lianne

    This is a good one….my plan:
    We will be out all day…I will use the bycycle trailer to transport the toddlers I look after, my daughter will still attned school (too important to miss) and hubby can still walk to his work and do it without electronics if necessary).
    Food prep can be done from my BOB…I am equiped for all in my household as well as the children I look after and I have a homemade alcohol stove that will be good for cooking and my cuppas. Entertainment is easy enough during the day as I will have the toddlers doing nature studies…we watch the creatures and clouds etc and talk about them and glue leaves into our journals. The evening with the family will be more challenging as they are addicted to the tv but we have in the past had ‘card evenings’…it’ll be by candlelight though and a gas heater for warmth (in an extended situation I would have to install a fire….could use my Alaskan stove if nec). I’ll let you know how it went tomorrow. Wish us luck.

  • Nini2033a

    one problem,,, there are no parks within walking/biking distance… we live in a forest.
    The closest one is like 5 miles away on a large busy road and my kid can’t ride a bike, we could maybe walk if all the cars were dead then the road would be safer.
    Gotta be honest though, in this situation, in real life, we would bug-in and DH & I would be carrying our guns.

    • lianne

      Could you have a day doing what you planned for this situation??? I would love to hear how that goes for you. Goodluck.

    • “if all the cars were dead then the road would be safer” — how true, how true! 🙂

      I would think somewhere in the forest, safely away from your home would count. Then again, I’m only watching the challenges (and I recommended the site to a friend who does security and preparedness training). Lots of good lessons here!

      For a poster above…I read _Alas, Babylon_ (by Pat Frank), and think it was an excellent book.

      I’m looking forward to reading _One Second After_ (William R. Forstchen). There’s also _Farnham’s Freehold_ (Robert A. Heinlein), another novel that deals with preparedness after nukes.

  • Nini2033a

    one problem,,, there are no parks within walking/biking distance… we live in a forest.
    The closest one is like 5 miles away on a large busy road and my kid can’t ride a bike, we could maybe walk if all the cars were dead then the road would be safer.
    Gotta be honest though, in this situation, in real life, we would bug-in and DH & I would be carrying our guns.